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Daniel Rubio's avatar

Option 3 has never struck me as that terrible. Yeah, most people don't live up to the standards of perfection most of the time. That's far from "monster" territory. I think people who don't like moral demandingness are a bit too judgy about moral failure. Once you spell out what that actually means in a demanding moral theory, you see that it doesn't deserve the level of castigation we get used to in less demanding theories.

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Jonah Dunch's avatar

Some thoughts on this:

- The intuition behind insisting on the possibility of superogation seems highly suspect to me--we want some demanding acts to be superogatory because we don't want to feel like we have to do them! (Sidebar: one way of reading the ethics of Jesus is that he insisted that various acts commonly understood to be superogatory were actually obligatory, and that some which the Pharisees, etc. understood to be obligatory were not even that.)

- But! One could say that the failure to fulfill certain (highly demanding) duties is not *blameworthy* (or at least not *that* blameworthy or fitting for indignation and other blame-associated reactive attitudes, including self-directed ones like guilt), because they're so hard for us finite beings, etc., so even if donating your kidney is actually obligatory, you shouldn't get mad at others for failing to do it or feel bad yourself for not doing it.

- I forget if this is the solution you offered in your U of T talk or something I made up just now: You have a right to decide what to do with your body. You have the prerogative to waive that right, but no duty to do so even for the sake of an optimal end. So even though donating your kidney would be optimal, you can't have a duty to do that because you have no duty to waive the right to decide what to do with your kidneys.

- One nice upshot of the above solution: Let's assume you waive certain rights upon entering into certain special relationships. If you become a parent, you waive the right to do whatever you'd like (barring harm to others) with your resources, perhaps even including your bodily resources, because you take on duties to determinate others that demand use of those resources. So if your child gets sick and needs a new kidney, we can say that you have a duty to give your child your kidney (assuming no other kidney is easily available, etc.), even if you wouldn't have said duty to a perfect stranger. (Christian ethics sidebar no. 2: the injunction to "love your neighbour as yourself" could be read as a call to treat our minimal relationships with other members of the moral community as duty-providing in the same way as our special relationships with chosen intimates.) (Chinese philosophy sidebar no. 1: the classical Confucian political ideal casts the ruler as "father to the people"; even Sun Yat-sen is still commonly called 國父 guofu, "father to the nation" or "national father" in the RoC (Taiwan). Confucian ethics is all about duties deriving from special relationships, so maybe the underlying idea here is that the ruler has the parental relationship with the whole people, and therefore takes on the duties of care derived from that relationship *to the whole people*.)

- One problem with the above solution, tho: does that mean minimal costs to your body can never be obligatory? What if Singer's pond is full of brambles that would scratch you as you wade in to save the child--does that mean you don't have to do it, because you have no duty to waive your right to bodily autonomy and endure those scratches? (Chinese philosophy sidebar no. 2: Mencius complains about ethical egoist Yang Zhu, who "would not pluck a hair from his head to save the whole world". So Mencius seems to endorse both demanding special obligations to family and subjects, etc., *and* relaxed obligations of beneficence to strangers.)

- Possible solution to that problem: well, maybe your relevant right is not to choose whatever happens with your body, but to refuse to endure serious costs to yourself. Scratches are no big deal, so you have no right to refuse them and therefore not save the child; but giving up one of your kidneys is a huge deal, so you have a right not to do it. (Where to draw the line though..?)

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